Thursday, October 9, 2008

R.I.P., USA (1776-2008), the death of a free nation

Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it." Buddha (h/t to Yolanda)

"Goodbye Liberty", from Chris Bliss (without juggling).
This will cost you 7 minutes:

(h/t to Betmo)

My best (and first) blogger friend abruptly and unceremoniously concluded yesterday a three year Blogger run. I grieve. Worse, his last post featured a 27 minute video which my husband and I together watched last night. In it Naomi Wolf asserts that on October 1, 2008 the president of the United States staged a coup. I urge you to watch it. Is it unnecessarily alarmist? Is Naomi simply a huckster? The Buddha suggests you decide for yourself and act accordingly. As for me, I think things may be much worse than I realized.

For further surfing:
The Center for Constitutional Rights (FAO's and info sheets page)
The End of America movie

I will not post again until Sunday.


FranIAm said...

Oh my. What can I say?

And I must go watch that Naomi video, but I feel afraid to do so.

Mauigirl said...

I read some of what Naomi said on another site and it chilled my blood. I'll watch the video when I have more time.

This country is in serious, serious trouble and we can only hope Obama will manage to win big enough that they won't be able to steal this election as they did the last two. But with the stuff going on in this last month I'm sure it will be down to the wire and the outcome still unknown.

thailandchani said...

I will definitely go to the other site and watch the video.

One comment on this really: If most people took the time to read the actual text of the Patriot Act, they'd be horrified.

Second comment on this really: My puny little irrelevant blog site was receiving visits from the Department of Justice for several weeks around April and May.

It's a good idea to be familiar with the sedition laws these days.


Randal Graves said...

I will definitely watch it. Right after American Idol.

Hell, even if Obama wins, there are still a few months until Inauguration Day. Why anyone should give evil people the benefit of the doubt is beyond me.

DivaJood said...

I have tagged you, my dear.

Mnmom said...

Scary stuff indeed. thailandchani - how do you know that? just curious.

Border Explorer said...

MNmom, I'm not sure Thailand Chani is still listening, so I'll mention that I have Statcounter installed on my blog and that gives me some info on who is visiting.

I appreciate the comments. I'm still troubled as I go through the motions of my day. Thank God for American Idol. Wait...hell, that was over months ago!

Liberality said...

that video is very chilling. but I believe my own experience and lately that experience is one where I am harassed by law enforcement it seems to me arbitrarily.

susan said...

For months Naomi Wolf has been warning about the possibility of Bush overriding the Posse Comitatus Act in the period directly before the election if it looked as if the Democratic candidate might win. I tend to think of her as a bit of an alarmist but nevertheless it's true the Army Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Team is back from Iraq and is training for domestic operations. Amy Goodwin of Democracy Now! interviewed the commander of the brigade and a journalist from the Progressive yesterday on her show. The transcript is here . It really is unnerving but I'm trying to contain my panic if not my anger.

Border Explorer said...

Liberality, you don't need a vid to tell you something is terribly wrong when you're being disenfranchised. This is horrible.

Susan, great info! Verification of "Dem. Now" for the info from Army Times helps. I'm anxious, but not panicky. The economy has been unnerving enough. And watching Taxi to the Dark Side this week was just the prep I needed to find N. Wolf believable.

Blueberry said...

I am going to watch the movie. In the meantime, I'm thinking I might be a secret Buddhist - or at least a great admirer of his wisdom.

Ruth Hull Chatlien said...

I'm sorry. That video strikes me as the same kind of fear-mongering the neo-cons are using. Maybe I'm being naive, but I don't like being manipulated with demonizing from either side. I completely agree that civil liberties have been eroded, but I'm not ready to start a second American Revolution.

Ruth Hull Chatlien said...

P.S. I want to make it clear that my remarks were about the video, not about you, BE.

Border Explorer said...

Thanks much, Ruth, for your comments. I do not take them personally. Actually they are reassuring. I am still in a bit of a personal quandary about that video's message. I haven't had time to check on other people's reactions to it. I realize that video appears reactionary. I'm upset that our military is being trained to be used against us/me. I don't know that that constitutes a coup. However, it is another line crossed. Having just watched Taxi to the Dark Side compounds my emotional reaction.

I really appreciate you and your perspective. Your comments are most welcome!

I appreciate all the commenters here! It is difficult to express what may be perceived as a dissenting opinion, so I especially want to recognize Ruth at this juncture. But--to repeat--I appreciate all the comments.

Ruth Hull Chatlien said...

Thank you. I'm glad you took it as I intended. I'm not saying definitely that Naomi Wolf is wrong, just that I'm not ready to accept her conclusions yet. We must all be vigilant.

Missy said...


I was just saying to someone that historically when banks are nationalized it usually precedes a government collapse, coup, or communist takeover...

That said, I agree with Ruth. This video is fear mongering.

This is not the end of America.


afeatheradrift said...

Alas, I can't see it, but I have to say, that I think the fanatics on the right are prepared to do almost anything to enforce their view of the world on the rest of us. Utter vigilance is necessary.

valnjohn said...

Throughout history there has never been total acceptance of tactics and/or motives of "government". It's hard to trust them. I am 100% proud to be an American and believe that I do live naively due to selective facts given to me by "media" and politicians. I do believe we need to resort to some of the things that we do. We also need to be held accountable when we do break the laws. By "we" I mean the government. I don't believe we can blame death on interrogation tactics. Each and every human deserves basic rights and also to be heard. We also deserve to hear the truth no matter what it is. We deserve to be protected within the law. We deserve to be heard, each and every voice that wants to rise up and express itself. I don't aggre with several beliefs that have been spoken. I will stand fast and protect the right that the person speaking it has the backing of it's government to speak freely. Our country was built on radical ideas and the right to speak them. Our government is supposed to be here for us, as well as supported BY us. I don't fell we will ever truly support our government until we are given the truth and basic liberties, such as speech. I know the argument is that we still have freedom of speech but in reality we all know that it is not true in the sense the constitution had intended it be. I could go on and on but will wrap this up for now. Thank you for the forum in which to speak my mind. Good luck and stay true to yourself and ideas!!